Poets and navigators have in common the need to know where one is -- accurately -- this common point is called "the truth."  Without it, ships founder, planes crash, self-driving cars fail, emperors are encouraged in their delusions and lose their power. 

Today we hear from scientists, explorers, oceanographers and a mountain climber.  All explore this planent and all see the climate change.  Their lives are amazing as you will hear:

JIM WHITTAKER, author of Life on the Edge, his memoir of mountain climbing, sailing, and starting REI.  The importance of the out-of-doors for the first American who summitted Mt Everest. 

SUSAN CASEY author of The Wave, an astonishing book about colossal, ship-swallowing rogue waves and the surfers who seek them out.

HOWARD ULRICH, Alaskan fisherman who survived the 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami, largest in recorded history at 1720 feet tall.

DICK DALE, known as King of the Surf Guitar, he pioneered surf music in the 1950s, drawing on Eastern musical scales and experimenting with reverberation.

DANIEL LENIHAN surfaces from the Bay for just long enough to be interviewed about his book Submerged: Adventures of America's Most Elite and Extreme Underwater Archeology Team.

DONOVAN HOHN, author of Moby Duck: the True Story of 28,800 Bath Toys Lost at Sea.

SUSAN FREINKEL, author of Plastic: A Toxic Love Story, taking us through history, science and the global economy to assess the real impact of plastic in our lives.

Plus some thoughts on walls.


Photo by Robert Rohde